Existing custom player cards and flash

Valentin · 2016-01-11T22:09:34.336Z

Thanks a lot for your answers
I do understand now why our Kapsuli card suddenly stopped working properly.

However, I’d like to know if there’s something we could work on together to get this fixed until Twitch players endly goes HTML5.

Here’s why in 5 big reasons:

Our mission is to connect the livestreaming world to the masses by creating the best possible livetweeting solution made for streamers.
Our main & 1st product today (https://www.kapsuli.com) enables any Twitch livestreamer to display their streams right Inside Twitter, for more viewership & engagement.
We are providing unique content producers with the ability to connect their online broadcast into the huge virality of Twitter, giving them more chance to get known or reach a wider audience.
And our users absolutely LOVE it.
How can we prove that to you ?

Check out these little slides online: bit.ly/Testimonials-Kapsuli
Check how fast our early users tweeted to help us alerting you
Sorry once again, @andypiper !
Type in @Kapsuli inside Twitter and see how much people are fascinating with what we built - even the Twitch R&D Team congratulated us in DM and pushed us to keep up the good work !

Our product is also great for the whole Twitter’s people.
You do know it, 99% of one’s Twitch community is on Twitter, as it is all about live. People are watching many streams at the same time and we give them the best “live preview” possible to scan Twitter timelines, looking for the best content. This way we consider Twitter as the best livestream search engine on earth and we are contributing to the improvment of its UX.
How much would you be happy to be able to check out an amazing CS:GO livestream without ever leaving Twitter ?
Aug 11, 2015 VS Aug 24, 2015. That’s a bitter pill to swallow. Don’t you think ?
Regarding your mobile concerns, please take note that our card simply redirects to the Twitch app when you are navigating Twitter on a mobile device. About flash : We only use Twitch flash player loaded from twitch servers in https.
We’ve just unlocked organic growth: 1K+ active users with an organic monthly growth rate of 30%. It would a real hard blow for us to be forced to wait until Twitch implements HTML5.

We love Twitter because we think this is the best place on the web to build new awesome media expériences through your Twitter Cards open-API.

I hope these 5 big reasons will make it possible for us to get an exception

Thanks a lot for your attention,

Kind regards,

Valentin.

andypiper · 2016-01-11T23:24:53.406Z

There is no “exception” here - even Adobe have stated that there is no future for Flash and we need to move forward especially with the need to support increasing numbers of mobile users.

Especially since you are (re)consuming another third party for “your” player, we would recommend that you engage with them to encourage that they love towards open web standards rather than relying on dead technology options. There is very little that we can do here and we would prefer to support a broader ranger of platforms as we can within our player cards.

I’d ask and strongly recommend that you don’t directly request support from individuals, for the very good reasons that we all have different skills, vacation and availability schedules, and that these are community forums where we are not always able to answer every question within hours, days, or sometimes weeks (especially immediately following holidays).

We understand that every developer is keen for the quickest response and resolution to their current issue, but we hope that these forums provide an open way to get access to the most current discussions, even when we are unable to individually address every question directly.

Thanks.

Valentin · 2016-01-11T23:50:08.983Z

No exception, that is sad for us. As you said flash is a dead / dying technologie.

Twitch is working on a HTML5 based player. It is supposed to be release in 2016 according to the last news from them.

We learn from every mistake we make and it is obviously one of them. My apologizes may not be enough but i wish you could blame only us and not other users.

Thank you for your answer.

jbulava · 2016-01-12T00:34:40.577Z

I appreciate your arguments, @Valentin! But unfortunately, as @andypiper mentioned, there is no exception to this Player Card update. I’m looking forward to Twitch going full HTML5 instead of just the player controls. Perhaps you can appeal to their dev team and try to get more info on their release plans. Sounds like you’re a great distribution platform for their content.

Tim_LB · 2016-01-12T13:20:40.386Z

jbulava:

Apologies for the delay here. As the announcement suggests, Flash is no longer available for Player Cards if created after Aug 11, 2015. This change was put into effect for user security and usability on mobile devices.

Hi @jbulava - I believe we’re in a situation pretty close to that of Valentin (we’re using a Flash player because it’s still pretty much the only way to efficiently display HLS-based live streams everywhere), with the exception that - if not mistaken - our card was validated (long) before Aug11, 2015.